Templar is not responding to anitbiotics

took him to two different vets, both said continue the antibiotics, which just arent git buggerationly working at all, I asked for something stronger they looked in a book said no all they ever do is look in books, I honestly dont think they know diddly piss.

had to syringe feed him some baby food today, he is just so slim, been hand feeding him 3 times a day with lactol and poly something anyway its meant to save sick rats, one of the other rats has started sneezing now, I just want to cry, I dont know what else I can do they have viatmins, echniea I havent got them on substrate just paper that I clean out daily, I am doing all I can and its not enough....I never remeber my other rats being so fragile.

Unfortunately they really do have delicate respiratory systems. One of mine is looking like it might be time to call it a day. She just has repeated infections - and hates the meds. So far she has had 4 long courses of anibiotics. She's a very timid rat and although i always doa head count and get them out if they want to come, they don't walways come out the cage. I don't force them so it's when they want to come. if i see 3 little white noses i know the white rats are ok - she plopped out of her hamock yesterday and has just dropped so much weight. I've whipped her out the cage and gor her in a small carrier where she can't move around much with lots of food and water. I've got her in the coolest room in the house too and i'm hoping she will pick up. If not i'm afraid it's a trip to the vets cause nothing seems to work for her.

Fingers crossed for your little dude. he at least has age on his side. Pinky was already an adult when picked her up from the pet shop and has always been slender. I actually have no idea how old she is.

Okay at my wits end I tried something extream crushing one of my antibiotics that is meant for me after my op I mixed it with baby food and hand fed him, well today he is a bit better, his breathing has eased to!
I know its naughty but the vets meds didnt do a thing and my antibiotics have knocked it for six, he even came out for a cuddle, I am also giving him a melted soothers in boiling water, wait for it to cool, today he ate the food from his bowl baby food again! so it seems the way forward.
got some baby milk to but sick of vets so far they have just made a mess of things so going on my own sense and herbal net remedies.
Also human meds are free on prescription vrs £30 for stuff that doesnt work....mm no brainer.
I know some will disapprove of me using human meds but may I point out yesterday he was going to die and today he is moving round and his breathings eased my way?

See how he goes you can actually google the toxicity amounts anyway. Septrin (the meds i have for mine) are actually little kids oral suspension of antibiotics.

Have a look to make sure you're well under the poisonous dose but great news that he's feeling better even if it's not the normal route.

a_wee_one wrote:See how he goes you can actually google the toxicity amounts anyway. Septrin (the meds i have for mine) are actually little kids oral suspension of antibiotics.

Have a look to make sure you're well under the poisonous dose but great news that he's feeling better even if it's not the normal route.

yeah well I have given up on vets every time I go she has to look it up in a book, the only difference between me and her is a prescription pad.
Templar is much better he was out and playing today, also the baby food seems to be helping to, his chest is less noisy to.

Apparently you google the drug and rat and LD50 and this will tell you whether you are under the stated lethal doseage just to be on the safe side. Also look at the side affects casue in a smaller creature they might be magnified.

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a_wee_one wrote:Apparently you google the drug and rat and LD50 and this will tell you whether you are under the stated lethal doseage just to be on the safe side. Also look at the side affects casue in a smaller creature they might be magnified.

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oh yes I googled the ld50 lethal dose limit did all my maths and my gran checked it, dont worry I might be a dipstick with alot of stuff but medication is something I am unfortunately all to familiar with.

ratrulesok wrote:

a_wee_one wrote:Apparently you google the drug and rat and LD50 and this will tell you whether you are under the stated lethal doseage just to be on the safe side. Also look at the side affects casue in a smaller creature they might be magnified.

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oh yes I googled the ld50 lethal dose limit did all my maths and my gran checked it, dont worry I might be a dipstick with alot of stuff but medication is something I am unfortunately all to familiar with.

Cool. How is he now?

I was nearly in tears today he took solid foods!!!
he is sooooo much better to the point I am angry that I didn't trust myself before, all the herbal ideas I was given from the holistic rat site have stopped all the others sneezing dead in its tracks ones I have fattened baby up I feel confident that in a months time he can be reintroduced to the boys.

Awesome, and they'll still be babies then too!

What holistic treatments have you been using?

a_wee_one wrote:Awesome, and they'll still be babies then too!

What holistic treatments have you been using?

echinacea, garlic, zinc, vitamin c
mixed fruit and veg puree, then a strong green tea.

he is doing marvlously and ate a whole bowl full of baby food of mommas sunday lunch with his herbs in so far so good